Lots to tell you today, however as usual it is not all good news. To start with the CEO of Tide has finally made his overdue statement on how that Fintech is doing regarding Bounce Back Loans.
In a nutshell, it appears they have now reached their initial limit on how much they can lend and are currently trying to raise more money to allow them to continue to process, approve and then pay-out Bounce Back Loans.
Having paid out some £50 million over the last three weeks, Oliver Prill (Tide CEO) is thanking members of Tide for their patience and is eager to tell those on the huge waiting list, one day soon, but with no definitive timeline, they will get around to processing their loan applications.
Not really what people want to hear when they are desperate for those loans. You can read the depressing statement from Oliver Prill here.
My own personal thoughts on the matter, well I can say that Tide members are not stupid and those chatting to me in DM’s and Tweeting about Tide have known for quite some time they had ran out of money and their “non-moving waiting list” was a very obvious sign of that.
You have a right to be very angry if you had pinned your hopes on Tide, for their lack of information regarding funds they had initially set aside should have been revealed at the start of the launch of their BBL scheme, as that would have allowed you to make a judgement call on whether to apply with them or not.
TSB Shocking News About New Business Bank Accounts
Moving on to TSB, I have seen letters sent out to people who have applied for a new account with them which tell applicants that if they wish to open a business account with that bank they can do, however they must sign to say that they are not going to apply for a Bounce Back Loan via that account with TSB.
What an absolutely vile and uncaring thing to do, however they are I suppose within their rights to do so, but I would therefore advise you to forget about trying to open an account with them if you are desperate to get a Bounce Back Loan as you will be forced to sign away your rights to do so with TSB if you do apply for a new business account with them
Pin Your Hopes on Metro
I contacted Metro Bank yesterday and asked them if anyone opening a new business bank account with them is going to face any problems or restrictions regarding those new account holders being able to apply for a Bounce Back Loan with them.
I am happy to say they replied rapidly (within minutes) and told me that to open such an account you simply need to fill in an online form and then you will be contacted with a date to visit a local branch whereby you can do so and once opened you can then set forth and apply for a BBL.
If you have almost lost all hope finding a bank that will allow you to open both a bank account and then go on to apply for a loan you need to seriously consider moving over to Metro Bank, even if the nearest branch is not that local to where you live.
Been Declined for a Bank Account or BBL?
Please read below for some reasons as to why you may be declined a bank account and/or a Bounce Back Loan with some lenders.
Many people who are declined tend to fear it is their credit rating/score that is the cause of a decline, and whilst that can and may play a part obviously, there can be a whole host of other reasons, some of which can be sorted out, and when the latter is the case you may find it much easier to open a bank account and/or obtain a Bounce Back Loan.
Some Lenders can and will and are in within their rights to decline anyone for an account and/or BBL based on their own criteria in additional to that laid down by the British Business Bank.
With that in mind, if you have checked all of the following and/or have been declined by one lender then you are also within your rights, and encouraged to apply to any other lender that is part of the Bounce Back Loan scheme.
Potential reasons not relating to credit score/rating
SIC Code – not matching on companies house vs application.
SIC Code – considered a reputational risk – you would be surprised how many business types fall into this category.
Directors/owners name not matching companies house and/or
Voters roll e.g. Chris vs Christopher, is middle name included etc
Business address not matching, has accountant used their address for registered? What is your correspondence address at companies house?
Business name not matching e.g. Ltd v limited
Recent changes of directorship and/or ownership – red flag at the moment due to BBL fraud
Markers registered against the company or director
Previous financial relationship with the bank or one its subsidiaries that did not end well
Thanks for the Donations by the Way
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The website is coming along great as you can see, over 350 posts and pages already loaded up, not bad in just a week of it being live, some posts may just be a paragraph or two long, and some are rather long and intense real life Bounce Back Loan experiences that you will relate to, so do please have a good look around, and when doing so you will see you are not alone with whatever BBL problems you are experiencing. .
Help and Support Thread
“Listen, I am getting quite a few DM’s, they are worrying me seriously worrying me. If any of you are prepared to chat to people in a very, very dark place put “I’m Here” in this thread. If you are in a dark place, please pick a follower in this thread to DM and chat to PLEASE.”
Listen, I am getting quite a few DM's, they are worrying me seriously worrying me. If any of you are prepared to chat to people in a very very dark place put "I'm Here" in this thread. If you are in a dark place please pick a follower in this thread to DM and chat to PLEASE.
— BounceBackLoanExperience (@Bounce_BackLoan) June 6, 2020
Many Bounce Back Loan applicants that have been through hell and still are experiencing problems have been offered compensation, ranging from £50 up to £2500 for the more complicated problems.
It is your choice as to whether you a accept any offer of compensation and the amount you accept too.
Bank and Lender Updates
Be aware things can change in an instant at any bank and as such I will now give you an overview of how things are going with each bank, and let you know how and where to contact if you want to try and chase up your Bounce Back Loan application and find out where things stand with each bank.
Each bank will have their own criteria for opening accounts, and some lenders also have their own set of rules regarding who they will allow to open an account and/or apply for a Bounce Back Loan.
They appear to have now launched their online Feeder Account Portal, which hopefully does away with the exceptionally long and drawn out process for applying for such an account.
Many people who had previously applied for a Feeder Account are still waiting for their call backs to set up the account, and/or to receive all related documents and many people are still waiting for payment.
Be aware many people have been declined for such an account when using that portal, and also when they have applied for a feeder account during the telephone interview for such an account.
Useful Email Addresses for Contacting HSBC:
Lloyds continue to do what they do best, process, and pay out BBL applicants quickly and with no fuss or hassle.
Be aware that if you hold a Bank of Scotland or a Halifax or Lloyds personal bank account you can use the Onboarding Portal to get a Lloyds Business Account and then can apply for a Bounce Back Loan.
Be aware though the dates listed on the website, as you will have had to have a personal bank account in operation before those dates to be able to onboard with Lloyds, if you have opened an account after the dates you will not be able to use that onboarding system.
Lloyds CEO Email Address
Metro Bank have now launched their Bounce Back Loan scheme, which is a sight to behold.
Due to the speed at which applicants are processed, and the rapid pay-outs too, many people wish they had an account with them, as their Bounce Back Loan journey would be an easy one for sure.
Metro Bank will let you register an interest in opening an account with them online and they will then make contact with you to arrange an appointment in one of their banks or ”stores” as they like to call them. Click Here to register for a Metro Bank account.
Applicants simply join an online queue and when it is their turn to apply for a Bounce Back Loan (which can be after a few hours), they then fill in the application form and once done they are then either approved on the spot, declined or told whether any additional information is required.
The feedback from many people is that Metro Bank are the game changer, as unlike most other banks people get to know at the end of their application their fate, without having to wait for days or weeks to discover what is going on with their application, as has been the case with other banks.
Tide have run out of money to lend and are desperately scrambling around trying to raise more to increase the number of applications they can process, as such you can expect a huge delays before any application you have put in will be processed.
To be fair to the Co-Op not many people have been complaining about them, I have had a few here and there and some have been sorted out but every now and then I get someone appearing and asking for help.
Co-Op Bank CEO Email Address
Yorkshire Bank and Clydesdale Bank
I get the odd complaint about both Yorkshire Bank and Clydesdale and it is always worth checking out their respective BBL sections of their websites for updates, seen reports of those banks taking applications for new bank accounts by the way, but check that out as it can change at any time.
Yorkshire Bank CEO Email Address
Clydesdale Bank CEO Email Address
I am still getting all manner of weird and wonderful complaints about Barclays, it does appear though that many applicants now fly through their Bounce Back Loan system, but many are still experiencing problems with applying, getting paid and contacting the bank.
Barclays CEO Email Address
NatWest and RBS
The usual complaints about NatWest and RBS, including poor communication, problems applying for a BBL and even people being declined. Once again you need to start haranguing the right people to have any chance of your problems being resolved.
They have been paying many applicants out obviously, so if you do manage to have a hassle free experience then you should get paid out fairly quickly, even if it is not in the time scale you had hoped for.
Be aware that you may apply, not hear anything and then out of the blue get an email saying they are so busy your application is being dumped and not looked at.
NatWest / RBS CEO Email Address
Much like some of the above banks Santander have attracted plenty of complaints, but in all fairness many followers, and many long-time ones too have found emailing their CEO does get a response and their claims processed quickly. They too have also been dumping applicants via a mass cull type of email so be warned.
Santander CEO Email Address
Starling Bank operate a waiting list type of system, however, be aware they have additional criteria of their own as to whom they will supply a Bounce Back Loan to. Therefore, there are no guarantees you will get a loan from them. They have declined many thousands of applicants.
Skipton Building Society and JCB Finance
Both Skipton Building Society and JCB Finance (who have just been accredited) operate a different business model than most mainstream lenders so you will need to check their respective websites to find out more about what they have on offer to applicants.
You will be asked to sign away your rights to be able to apply for a Bounce Back Loan if you try to open a new account with TSB. As such do not waste your time trying to get such an account with them if your intention is to apply for a TSB Bounce Back Loan.
TSB CEO Email Address
Other Bounce Back Loan Lenders
The following are other Bounce Back Loan Lenders, be aware I receive very few if any complaints about any of the following.